Overgraded/Undergraded - your views

One thing you always hear at the crag is about grades. It really is about consensus but imagine if we didn't have that debate... So are there climbs here in Golden Bay that you think are just plain wrong. Overgraded/undergraded. If you make a comment I think it is important to look at other climbs in the same grade and consider if it is much harder than and comment accordingly...etc etc . Also as regard what might be the benchmark climbs in a Grade bracket. Eg Temples of Stone is probably the benchmark 18 at Paynes given that, probably Fat Cats (19) on the Tenuite is overgraded. I certainly find it easier to climb than Stone Symposium (18 version). Feel free to comment There are some other comments here on Mojozone.

Bo Peep Slab: Honour and Obey (21)

Honour and Obey 21 4B Chris Burtenshaw 11/06 This new line on the left of the wall heads directly up the faint groove right of the first bulge of Coup de Grace (which heads up and left) and has a tricky hidden hold towards the top. Another good addition to the wall by the climber formerly known as Lizzard.